I recently bought a car with a semi-auto, or ACS (auto clutch system), transmission. Although I hold a full UK manual licence (so have manual & auto entitlement), this has sparked some debate between me and my friends as to whether a car like this can be legally driven on a UK auto (class:b auto) category driving licence.
I started with a Google search. And it seems that this question is shrouded with confusion. So I looked on DVLA, direct.gov and the Driving Standards Agency web sites and still drew a blank.
I find this bemusing as more and more cars are being produced with this kind of gear box option. Often called tiptronic, something-else-tronic, flappy paddles etc.
A lot of forums revealed confusion over what a semi-automatic or ACS is. Many contributors often referring to it being an automatic with a D (drive setting) and some selection control. Like the 1,2,3 settings on some Mercs I’ve had that allow the selection of 1st, 2nd or 3rd to help when traction is a problem like in snow or mud.
This isn’t a semi-auto at all. Semi-auto has no Drive setting. It always requires manual selections of the correct gear for the conditions, although using different gear selection techniques and removing the manual depressing of a clutch pedal. It still has a clutch but this is operated automatically by the car’s systems.
As an ex-driving instructor, from when semi-autos were just a new option on cars like Ferraris, I regard this as a manual transmission. Clutch operation is only 20-30% of the extra skills applied when driving a manual car when compared to an automatic.
Having had this ACS car for almost a month now, it actually requires new skills I’m now learning as you can’t introduce the road speed to the new selected gear as smoothly as you can in a manual when changing down for junctions and conditions. Hill starts are also still to master. As is maneuvering in tight spaces.
However, also from the point of view of an ex-driving instructor, it wouldn’t surprise me if these were officially legal to be driven on an auto licence. Given the strange ways the DVLA applies law and policy.
Does anyone have a link to any official line on this question?
If you found this question because you need to know the answer to this question because you are an auto licence holder considering buying a semi-auto, my advice is you get it in writing from the DVLA or DSA and triple check it with your insurance company.
I wouldn’t take any chances as you could possibly find yourself illegal and uninsured (therefore illegal again) in the event of an incident.
Please don’t just take bloke-down-the-pub’s word for it, or even your driving instructors. (I know, instructors are often just as confused on these finer points).
Stay safe, and legal
Lol thanks for pointing out my mistake. It was, of course, meant to say on an "automatic" licence.
But thanks also for your very informative link. Just what I was after.
Which states:
"SEMI-AUTOMATIC SYSTEMS
With these the driver has to select the gear required by movement of the gear lever as with a manually controlled gearbox, but there is no clutch pedal. For driving test and licencing purposes these vehicles are regarded as automatics"
Awesome. In true DVLA fashion they’ve totally de-valued most of the skill difference in the manual/auto relationship. This doesn’t surprise me one bit.
After all these are the people who were proposing a tax system utilising GPS in every vehicle to track all the miles traveled when we have a fuel tax system that does this fully automatically and takes into consideration gass-guzzlers and poorly maintained un-green cars.
I’d hate to work in that office as opening a bag of crisps probably involves an amount of high explosive or some dangerous co
"Can you drive a semi-automatic on a manual UK licence ?" yes, manual covers all use.
Can you drive a semi-automatic on an Automatic UK licence? See pages 10 & 11 of the Practical Test information, they are classed as automatics.